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"Pres.Obama, VP.Biden, Sec.LaHood-"Make no litttle plans, so let's get to work"

President Obama and his team have laid out the High-Speed-Rail plan for the USA---that's great news. April 16,2009 will be an historical date in US rail history.

As I see my neighbors batten down their hatches as the auto companies, suppliers, machine shops, engineering and design studios get sucked into the collapsing economic whirlpool it seems a logical move to incorporate the auto industry's capacity into the railvolution that President Obama initiated April 16, 2009.

As Chicago will continue to grow as the RAIL-HUB of North America, the Detroit area could become one of several RAIL-MANUFACTURING-HUBS of North America. What a senseless waste it would be to demolish and scrap the industrial capacity of the MID-WEST, only to have it shipped (by-rail) to the ports of Long Beach or Seattle to be loaded into ships headed for Asian steel mills.

Now could be the time to put the BIG-3 and partners to work doing their part building rolling stock for AMERICA'S HIGH-SPEED-RAIL-NETWORK.


Posted 05-26-2009 4:30 PM by RAILWAYIST

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TriadRRer wrote re: "Pres.Obama, VP.Biden, Sec.LaHood-"Make no litttle plans, so let's get to work"
on 05-27-2009 10:54 AM

A very timely suggestion!  GM used to be very big in the locomotive business with their Electr-Motive Division at their LaGrange(?) plant near Chicago.  And GE is still a big factor making locomotives at their Erie, PA plant.  Pullman-Standard was big in the passenger car business at their South Chicago plant where they refurbished the heritage cars for Amtrak, and I imagine they could re-crank up their manufacturing capability for making new cars and bring some of this business back to the states.

TriadRRer wrote re: "Pres.Obama, VP.Biden, Sec.LaHood-"Make no litttle plans, so let's get to work"
on 05-28-2009 1:49 PM

The post:"PULLMAN Palace Car Co. shops in Detroit predate" auto. mfg. posted 05-27-2009 6:04 PM by RAILWAYIST segues nicely into my post of a little earlier.  Having visited the GM Research/Tech Center in Warren MI, near Detroit, I feel they have the talent, although recently focused on the automobile, to improve passenger railcars.

BillMolony wrote re: "Pres.Obama, VP.Biden, Sec.LaHood-"Make no litttle plans, so let's get to work"
on 05-28-2009 5:10 PM

Pullman last built passenger cars in Chicago about 1974, and Bombardier now owns the rights to all Pullman designs and patents. General Motors no longer owns its former Electro-Motive Division. GM sold off Electro-Motive to an investor group in 2005.

I agree that the next generation of inter-city passenger cars should be built in the US, but Bombardier will most likely get the orders. They currently have the expertise and capacity to build new rail cars that General Motors doesn't have.

James Swidergal wrote re: "Pres.Obama, VP.Biden, Sec.LaHood-"Make no litttle plans, so let's get to work"
on 05-28-2009 5:47 PM

Just a note here.

The former land near Lagrange,Il. that EMD-GM used is now part of the UPS (United Parcel Service Complex) Complex,and even has it's own on/off ramp onto I-294.

And the last time I looked the pullman plant is gone for ever, a few years back now even the landmark clock tower was demo'd after a devasting fire.

Even with all of that you are right on, why not convert GM's loss of auto production into not only freight rail cars and loco's and passenger cars too. It could put many people to work or even back to work, whether it's in Detroit,or right here in Chicago,(by the way..the acrage formerly known as USS South Works has been remediated and is available...and is in close proximity of the proposed 2016 olympic site ...not a bad perk.)

BillMolony wrote re: "Pres.Obama, VP.Biden, Sec.LaHood-"Make no litttle plans, so let's get to work"
on 05-28-2009 9:37 PM

Minor corrections; the UPS complex in Willow Springs is on the former sight of GM's Fisher Body Stamping Plant. Electro-Motive is over on 55th Street in McCook. The original Pullman Factory on the northeast corner of 111th and Cottage Grove Avenue in  Chicago was severely damaged by an arsonist's fire, but it is gradually being restored.

Could America's automotive industry be re-tooled to produce passenger rail cars? Possibly, but it would have to be able to compete in the world market with their products.

Larry Kaufman wrote re: "Pres.Obama, VP.Biden, Sec.LaHood-"Make no litttle plans, so let's get to work"
on 05-29-2009 2:33 PM

I think it's time for churlish again.  Detroit and its auto industry did just about everything they could to destroy the railroads.  They bet the farm on more highways to handle more cars and trucks.  GM got rid of EMD because it just didn't fit the business, even though EMD was the leading locomotive manufacturer  for many years.  The auto makers screwed up their businesses all by themselves.  No American should take any satisfaction from this -- we're all Detroiters, as far as that goes.  But let's not get carried away by what I shall charitably call artificial fixes for Detroit.  It has no particular expertise in building rail equipment, and any attempt to force a new industry in there would only take work and jobs away from those who now can do the work.